Rover 45 CVT Gearbox

[d71146]

Hi All,

Another query about the CVT gearbox.

I have recently purchased a Rover 45 2001 year with 18,000 miles only.

Could anyone tell me when the car is started up from cold is it normal to have a few sqeaks etc for a half minute or so which then mainly goes away.
Although the car has only covered a low mileage I have had the gearbox fluid and filter changed by a gearbox specialist I wonder what might cause this sqeaking as the car drives perfectly OK.

[gazza487]

Waht did the "specialist" fill it with ??? It should be Esso cvt fluid and nothing else!!!!!!!!! ONLY bmw and rover places seem to adhere to this

Squeak may be fan belt or similar-try a squirt of WD40 on it whilst its running see if it stops it. Other than that I cant think

[d71146]

Originally Posted by gazza487

Waht did the "specialist" fill it with ??? It should be Esso cvt fluid and nothing else!!!!!!!!! ONLY bmw and rover places seem to adhere to this

Squeak may be fan belt or similar-try a squirt of WD40 on it whilst its running see if it stops it. Other than that I cant think

The gearbox specialist did refill with the correct fluid as I queried this matter before they started the job but I had this sqeaky noise before the work was carried out I am going to take your advice and squirt a little WD40 about.

I wonder if anyone else on the Forum has had this niggly problem ?

[MattZR160]

Have not had any squeaks from the gearbox, but I was asking a gearbox specialist about the CVT box in a 45 and the common problems are a rattling drive plate between the engine and the gearbox, and slightly juddery take off when cold - 'all in all a reliable box but not the most refined' he said.

[BIGGUNS]

I have a CVT gearbox on my coupe and it's quiet all of the time. I notice it seems to hang on a little in drive when slowing down, but I just put it into neutral and coast. Can I ask how much they charged for the oil and filter change.

[d71146]

Originally Posted by BIGGUNS

I have a CVT gearbox on my coupe and it's quiet all of the time. I notice it seems to hang on a little in drive when slowing down, but I just put it into neutral and coast. Can I ask how much they charged for the oil and filter change.

Hi they charged me £60-00 to drain the old fluid, change filter re plenish with new.
Cant say that it improved performance etc I had it done for piece of mind really.

[pete l]

Originally Posted by gazza487

Squeak may be fan belt or similar-try a squirt of WD40 on it whilst its running see if it stops it. Other than that I cant think

Why would you want to lubricate the fan belt ? That's the worst thing you can do, you'll make it slip even more, you want to degrease it and the pulleys and tighten it up to stop it squeeling

[gazza487]

Originally Posted by pete l

Why would you want to lubricate the fan belt ? That's the worst thing you can do, you'll make it slip even more, you want to degrease it and the pulleys and tighten it up to stop it squeeling

Its a very old trick that my dad taught me, his mate who owned a proper bodge merchant garage (he purchased most of the mots on his old austin metro IIRC) someone said his car needed a new alternator as it was noisy-squirted the actual belt with wd and voila. I didnt mean lubricate with a thick oil but you try it a quick squirt of wd40 on the fan belt whilst the car is running will infact quieten it down - odd but true. I'd imagine wetting it would have similar effect but no such a good idea-its a quick test, do the job properly if it needs it

[BIGGUNS]

Originally Posted by d71146

Hi they charged me £60-00 to drain the old fluid, change filter re plenish with new.
Cant say that it improved performance etc I had it done for piece of mind really.

Same reason I will be doing mine. Performance isn't an issue to me, I am looking for things to last!!

[ade014]

Originally Posted by d71146

Hi they charged me £60-00 to drain the old fluid, change filter re plenish with new.
Cant say that it improved performance etc I had it done for piece of mind really.

Just a thought, but the oil for this gearbox is about £15 a litre plus vat and you need at least 2 litres without any labour or a filter. I think I would check to make sure the correct oil had been put in- Esso EZL799- only available in 25l bulk in this country it seems, or BMW cvt oil are the only oils recommended by ZF (makers of this box).

I spoke to ZF about this when I wanted to change the oil in mine after a specialist sent me the same stuff he always uses in CVT boxes- ZF confirmed the supplied oil was not correct, and the only oil recommended is the oil above- I was even told that BMW was the best place as it was the only place it was easily available from.

Having said that mine makes alli kinds of rattles and squeaks- had an auto specialist listen and he said all normal- some are noisy some aren't. The only thing to worry about is whining.

Ade